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Transcript of the Press Conference Addressed by the Foreign Office Spokesman 31 October 2001 Opening Comments There were no statements.
QUESTION - ANSWER SESSION:
The following issues were discussed during the question-answer session: * When his attention was drawn to the President’s interview with Reuter Television which conveyed the impression that the government was contemplating a change in its earlier stance of asking the US government to suspend its military operation in Afghanistan during the Ramadan, the Spokesman replied: Pakistan’s position has been that the military strikes in Afghanistan should be short and targeted. They should be over as soon as possible. Obviously, the purpose of these strikes is to achieve certain objectives. At the same time, it was our hope and its remains our hope, that these strikes would be over soon and there would be minimal collateral damage and civilian casualties. The President has reiterated that position. At the same time, the situation as it is, obviously the target has to be achieved. DG ISPR added: I was present at that interview. Actually, there was a different way the question was phrased. It was that "would you pressurize the American government to halt operations during Ramadan" and the President said that "I have voiced my concern, we have voiced our concerns not only to Secretary of State of the US who visited Pakistan, but also to the US government and to this word of "pressurizing the US government or the US forces", he said, "no I will not pressurize". * To a question with regard to an AP wire news which has quoted Indian General saying that a 65-war-like situation has developed in Kashmir and that it was the best opportunity for India to cross the border and settle this issue once for all, the DG ISPR said: There seem to be a disparity and a disconnect between the Indian government and the Indian army. The Defence Minister very recently said that the Indian government was not thinking of going across the Line of Control and today as you said that an Indian General has said something totally opposite. Let me also add here that the past incident of where artillery and mortar fire during the Secretary of State Colin Powell’s visit to Pakistan which was unprovoked totally that the Indian Army started on the LoC. There were indications given at various levels by the Indian government that its local commanders had opened up fire without permission from the Indian government. So I think one need not really comment on what various Generals of the Indian army keep saying. It is just enough to know that there seems to be a disconnect. From the point of view of Pakistan, we have tried in the past unilaterally also to defuse the situation and to prevent friction and tension between the two countries. There have been in the past unilateral withdrawal of forces by Pakistan from Kashmir from the Line of Control. So, as far as Pakistan is concerned we want this core issue of Kashmir to be resolved via dialogue by peaceful means. If the Indians want to escalate or create additional tension, Pakistan which still continues to exercise maximum restraint, will only take bare minimum defensive measures. * When his attention was drawn to the Indian Prime Minister’s statement in Gujarat wherein he has said that there will be no further division of India and referred to Kashmir as part of India, the Spokesman said: As you are well aware that the entire world and the United Nations Security Council recognize Kashmir as a disputed territory. It is not a part of India. The fate of which has to be decided through a plebiscite under the UN resolutions. So the question of division of India doesn’t arise. It is a question of a decision of accession of a territory where people have not been given the right of self-determination, as was promised to them under the UN resolutions. We can go back in the history we can talk about what the nature of instruments of accession was, the unfortunate history of that territory, the atrocities that have been committed on the Kashmiri people by the Indian forces and the denial of the right of self-determination. Enough documents and literature is available on that. The Indian leaders had given the commitment that the future of Kashmir will be decided by allowing the people of Kashmir to exercise their fundamental inherent right to self-determination. * To a related question, the Spokesman said: I have said just now that Kashmir is not a part of India. It is a disputed territory whose fate has yet to be decided under the UN resolutions. So it is not a question of any division of India. * When he was asked to spell out intended ramifications for Pakistan in case the Northern Alliance, with the help of the US, takes over Kabul, the Spokesman said: We have stated that keeping in view the past record, it would not be advisable for any single faction or group to take over control of Kabul. The future dispensation of Afghanistan should be freely chosen by the people of Afghanistan and they should decide what arrangements for the administration in Kabul have to be put on the ground. * When asked to elaborate the agenda items pertaining to the forthcoming visit of the President to the United States, the Spokesman stated: The President’s programme is being worked out. He is going for the UN General Assembly Session as well as meeting with President Bush and other leaders who would be attending the Session. Details of the programme are being worked out. As soon as the details are worked out we will make an announcement about it. * When he was asked to give comment on the latest situation in Chillas, the DG ISPR stated: I spoke about this yesterday and we expected that either by late evening yesterday or by today the talks which were going on with the authorities we would resolve the issue and that has been resolved. The KKH is operational and there are no blockades. There is no problem any more. * When asked to give his views on the President’s latest interaction with the politicians and whether there was any hidden agenda behind these meeting, the DG ISPR stated: I have repeatedly answered this question individually and yesterday in the press briefing here. Let me clear it once and for all. I, and the President have repeatedly clarified this position. There is nothing happening behind any curtains. The President as in the past has been interacting with representative of all segments of society, including political parties where there is exchange of views and where the situation that exits today and what has happened over the past few months, is what is discussed. People are up-dated and an exchange of views takes place. There is no change in the offing as far as the Cabinets are concerned, if that is what you are hinting at. There is no change or no plan to include any representatives of political parties in any sort of interim government, if that is what you are trying to ask. Therefore, as already given out by the President the road map will be implemented and election to the provincial and federal assemblies will be held by October 2002. I hope it puts at rest all these doubts. * Asked whether or not the government had brought up the issue of Indian presence in Northern Afghanistan with Mr. Brahimi or with the United States, the Spokesman observed: I think I spoke at length yesterday about Mr. Brahimi’s visit. He is visiting here as a part of his consultations for finding a viable peace process for establishing a stable government in Afghanistan. The discussions have figured around that aspect of the situation as it is prevailing. Mr. Brahimi is here on a visit as UN Secretary General’s representative on Afghanistan. So the various aspect of the peace process in Afghanistan as well as a strategy for rehabilitation and reconstruction in Afghanistan post-military operation’s phase have been discussed with him. The DG ISPR added: We have heard of reports of Indian officers’ presence with the Northern Alliance. I have no confirmation but I am sure everyone is aware of who all are present with the Northern Alliance. * To a related question that India was supplying arms and ammunition to the Northern Alliance, the DG ISPR observed: That is nothing new. * When asked to brief about the government’s plans to deal with the processionists, especially when they are planning to go on a wheel jam strike on 9th of next month, the DG ISPR said: What I can do is to read out to you a press release that we were about to issue regarding the law and order conference that was held today and there will obviously be a release given after the Cabinet meeting is over, which is normal thing that we do. May be that will explain some of the things you are asking: "A meeting chaired by the President was held in Islamabad today (October 31, 2001) which reviewed the law and order situation in the country. The participants of the meeting, including the four provincial governors, Federal Minister for Interior and other Senior Officials concerned with law and order. The Minister of Interior Lt.Gen.(Retd) Moin Haider briefed the participants about the overall law and order situation in the country. The Minister for Interior and Governor Punjab also briefed the President about the progress of investigations regarding the recent act of terrorism in Bahawalpur. The participants deliberated upon the various measures being taken to ensure security of life and property of the peace loving people. It was categorically asserted by the President that on no account the writ of the government would be allowed to be violated by any individual or group or civic life in the country disrupted on any pretext. Strong notice was taken of malicious and seditious statements coming from certain quarters and it was decided that the government would proceed against such elements in accordance with law." * Asked if there was any plan to ban the religious parties which were protesting the government’s decision to support the US in Afghanistan, the DG ISPR stated: I am not aware of that. * When he was asked to comment on the circumstances under which 196 Indian fishermen along with their boats were released, the Spokesman said: This problem of fishermen coming into Pakistani waters has been going on over the years and normally once these people are apprehended and their antecedents and everything ascertained, there is always an exchange or release of these fishermen. This is the same thing that has happened this time. We have an arrangement with India about the fishermen issue. * When his attention was drawn to the news item that Pakistan during discussion with UNHCR Chief has agreed to accept 80,000 and in another report 300,000 Afghan refugees and a procedure in this regard has been finalized and moreover, if the new format of briefing was related to the internal situation, the Spokesman stated: Neither figure is correct. We haven’t had any agreement. The position remains the same. The borders are closed for new refugees. Certain cases of a very high humanitarian nature like sick people and old people are being allowed but other than that position remains the same. We do not have the capacity to absorb anymore new refugees and these should be settled inside Afghanistan. We understand that UNHCR is making preparations as a case of emergency should something happen that the flood of refugees cannot be stopped that some arrangements are in hand already, but the government policy remains the same. What the UNHCR is doing is within their competence. But as far as the government is concerned the borders are closed for the new refugees. The briefing format has been expanded so that some of the questions, particularly of a military nature, can be accommodated. * When his attention was drawn to an AFP report regarding the United States plans to launch ground troops in Afghanistan and also if he knew the number of terrorists and civilian casualties, the DG ISPR observed: I think both questions should have been directed towards the US. I have also heard or seen on television, beyond that I am not aware of what the plans are. Also, I am not aware of how many terrorists or civilians have been killed in Afghanistan. * When his opinion was sought on the possibility of a take over of Kabul by the Northern Alliance and its resultant consequences for the idea of a broad-based government in Afghanistan, the Spokesman replied: The possibility of the take over of Kabul by a particularly group or entity cannot be ruled out but as far as our position is concerned, we have stated it clearly that it is better that a political dispensation is in place through the UN efforts so that the situation that existed in the past that we have seen after the Soviet withdrawal, does not arise in Afghanistan, that such a situation should be avoided. Source: www.forisb.org/FOS01-55.htm "One has to achieve the objective of the military operation… I only hope that this (military objective) is achieved before Ramazan. There is a possibility… But if that does not happen, I would discuss the matter with him (US president) but I wouldn't be pressing him as such… Afghanistan has suffered, the people are suffering so much that I am reasonably sure there are many people who even question the wisdom of their suffering for the sake of somebody who is there and not an Afghan, like Osama bin Laden and his people… There are some people who would be thinking on these lines and those are the people who may be waiting to change sides."
-- President Pervez Musharraf, Quoted in Reuters Television, October 30 Transcript of the Press Conference Addressed by the Foreign Office Spokesman 30 October 2001 AnnouncementMr. Riaz Muhammad Khan has got busy with some other tasks and from now on General Rashid Qureshi and I, would be briefing the press every day. To begin with I have a brief statement that the UN Secretary General Special Representative on Afghanistan Mr. Lakhdar Brahimi, called on the President of Pakistan today. The situation in Afghanistan as well as the role of the UN in the Afghan peace process and the reconstruction of Afghanistan was discussed. The President stressed the importance of the political process to be set in motion side by side with the military operations to be followed by reconstruction and rehabilitation process in Afghanistan. The President emphasized that the unity, territorial integrity, stability and peace in Afghanistan must be ensured. The political dispensation in Afghanistan should be broad-based and must take into account the multi-ethnic, demographic composition of Afghanistan. The political dispensation should be arrived at through an indigenous process and should not be imposed from outside. The President also emphasized the need to plan a major rehabilitation efforts for Afghanistan as fast as possible to bring normalcy in the country. He said that the rehabilitation efforts should focus on water management and land development, so that agriculture base of the country could be developed and help the Afghan refugees return to their home-land. Similarly, efforts must also be concentrated on the rehabilitation of infrastructure and initiation of construction works. The humanitarian efforts through UNHCR inside Afghanistan need to be further reinforced. Mr. Lakhdar Brahimi expressed his appreciation for Pakistan support to the UN peace process. He agreed that there was need to accelerate the political process as well as the preparation for a comprehensive programme for reconstruction of Afghanistan for which the important donor countries have already made commitments. The UNHCR Mr. Rudd Lubbers also called on the President. He held a meeting with the Foreign Minister as well. During these meetings in-depth exchange of views on how to ensure adequate humanitarian assistance for the displaced Afghans, including ways and means of providing assistance to the Afghan people inside Afghanistan were discussed. It was necessary to provide immediate assistance inside Afghanistan, to avert a human catastrophe there. The emphasis was on providing assistance inside Afghanistan and establishment of camps inside Afghanistan where it will be easier to establish those camps and the help can also be more easily provided. Now we will take the questions. QUESTION - ANSWER SESSION: The following issues were discussed during the question-answer session: * When asked to comment on "New Yorker Magazine’s" report which has mentioned a "covert American-Israeli plan to take out Pakistan’s nuclear arms" and a press report regarding the handing over of three nuclear scientists to FBI/CIA, the Spokesman said: I will just respond to this question by saying that as far as the report in the "New Yorker Magazine" is concerned the State Department’s Spokesman has already denied that report. The report about the handing over of nuclear scientists is totally baseless. The DG ISPR added that there is no question of any one attempting or even coming anywhere closer to these. Anyone who makes a statement like that perhaps has very little idea as to the safeguards put in place for the nuclear assets. * When asked to comment on the Indian Prime Minister’s recent statement wherein he has declined to talk to the President during his forthcoming visit to New York, the Spokesman stated: You know, Pakistan’s position in this regard is very well known. We have expressed our desire to resolve all outstanding issues with India, including the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir through peaceful negotiations. For this purpose we have also invited India for a meeting anytime, anyplace, anywhere, at any level. Besides that an invitation to Prime Minister Vajpayee to visit Pakistan as well as to meet in New York has been extended. We would very much like that all issues between India and Pakistan, are resolved through negotiations and for this purpose meetings at various levels would be necessary. * When the Spokesman was asked to clarify the situation regarding the detention of Mr.Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and Mr. Abdul Majeed, two former nuclear scientists of Pakistan, the DG ISPR said: As I said earlier Sultan Bashiruddin is a retired government servant who retired in 1998 and was involved in running an NGO and in the process of running that NGO he had gone to Afghanistan on a number of times. There were certain questions that needed to be asked and those have been asked. The report about his handing over to CIA/FBI or any other agency is absolutely incorrect and false. Presently, he is not under arrest at all and has been hospitalized. * When asked to give more information about Commander-in-Chief CENTCOM’s meeting with the President, the DG ISPR stated: Relevant information in this regard has already been made public. I don’t think we can go into further details. * When the Spokesman was asked whether the government was thinking in terms of changing its policies vis-à-vis the demonstrators and the Jehadis who are trying to enter into Afghanistan, the DG ISPR commented: There is no thought on changing the way the government is working. Yes, there were certain areas that were discussed and certain proposals we need to implement for reasons of internal security and safety of citizens. As you know, there has been an incident, a terrorist incident I would like to call it, and very serious note has been taken of that whether this incident at Bahawalrpur has been precipitated by forces from across the border or from within Pakistan, these people will be traced and brought to justice. * When he was asked to give his views regarding the timeframe for the establishment of a broad-based, multi-ethnic government in Afghanistan, the Spokesman said: The situation is evolving and no timeframe can be given. You would agree that there is need for a political process through which a broad-based, multi-ethnic and representative government could be established in Afghanistan. This had been our position even when the civil war was going on. Pakistan and the international community have identical position on this issue that there was need to have a stable, multi-ethnic, broad-based and a representative government in Afghanistan, acceptable to all Afghans. So long as such an entity is not there durable peace would not be possible inside Afghanistan. So, efforts in this regard should continue and they are continuing. * On a question if the government was contemplating a change in its Afghan policy as the word ‘moderate Taleban’ is being avoided by the senior government officials and his own assessment pertaining to the ground situation which was evolving in Afghanistan, the Spokesman stated: First of all the political process in Afghanistan concerning which you have commented whether there has been any mention of moderate Taleban, I think as far as my statement today is concerned there was no mention of any specific group but what one was talking about was that there was need to have a political process through which a broad-based, multi-ethnic government representative of all Afghans can be put in place in Afghanistan. So to mention or not to mention a specific group or entity is in my view a leading question and nothing more. As far as the internal situation is concerned we really do not have any means to know about the situation inside Afghanistan. So far as we are concerned we would like the military campaign to be short and targeted to avoid civilian casualties and that a political process which can put in place a government acceptable to all Afghans so that durable peace and reconstruction of Afghanistan can start. * Asked to comment whether there was pressure on the government to open its border to all refugees including those males who might have been forcibly recruited by the Taleban and the Northern Alliance and also during the meeting with Mr. Brahimi if there was any agreement or any progress in terms of ending the bombardment before Ramadan, the Spokesman stated: Well, your last question first, Mr. Brahimi is visiting the region in connection with the peace process. All subjects were discussed and apart from what has already been said I cannot add anything more. As far as the borders are concerned, I think we have repeatedly spoken about it that Pakistan has been most generous as far as the refugees are concerned. I think there is no other example anywhere of a country hosting so many refugees for such a long time, despite the fact that until recently there was very little assistance for these refugees which from all sources amounted to $13/- per refugee, per year. You know the real situation in Afghanistan. Because of the civil war and drought the current situation is precarious and there are approximately five to six million Afghans according to the UN estimates who require humanitarian assistance immediately. Now such a large number cannot go across to another country seeking asylum or refuge. The more prudent and economic policy would be to provide assistance to these people inside Afghanistan. Also camps can be established inside Afghanistan away from the cities which are vulnerable to bombing. * When his comments were sought that whether the government’s Afghan policy was riddled with contradiction and how long it would take the government to go for rehabilitation and reconstruction in Afghanistan, the Spokesman said: Afghanistan has suffered devastation over the last 20 years during the time of Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and during consequent civil war. A lot of areas were mined and I think Afghanistan is considered as one of the most heavily mined territories in the world. Agriculture has been disrupted, roads and bridges have been destroyed completely. It already happened during the Jehad against the Soviets as well as the subsequent years when there was infighting between the various factions. The reconstruction effort is massive and without that the Afghan refugees cannot return to their homes because there is nothing to return to. The need for reconstruction efforts is paramount. Without economic development it would not be possible to sustain even a credible political process. So as far as emphasizing the importance of rehabilitation and reconstruction it cannot be denied. It is in view of that also that the government’s position has been that the present military action should be short and targeted. The DG ISPR added that it is unfair to say that Pakistan is assisting in the destruction of Afghanistan that is not what Pakistan is doing. Pakistan is supporting and cooperating with the world community in the fight against terrorism. However, I do agree that there is collateral damage in the process and there have been civilian casualties. Pakistan remains committed to the welfare of Afghanistan and the Afghan people. To say that the operation is against the country, Muslim or Islam, is unfair. * When asked to comment on the envisaged plan of restoring King Zahir Shah in Afghanistan and whether the idea was discussed with Mr.Brahimi, the Spokesman stated: As you know that there are various peace processes which are already taking place. There was the Rome process that is King Zahir Shah’s initiative, the Bonn process and the Cyprus process. Recently a convention has been held by important Afghans in Peshawar which was widely attended by 1500 prominent Afghans. In that Convention they have also made certain recommendations. Nearly all these processes are united in one respect that they have to look for durable peace in Afghanistan through the process of Loya Jirga. Various steps in that have been identified. King Zahir Shah has announced that there should be a 120 member’s supreme council for national unity. Nominations to this council have not yet been made, the Afghans are in the process of consultations. Zahir Shah’s delegation has visited Pakistan and held consultations with us. Similarly, other groups are talking to each other. We hope it will give impetus to the peace process so that the Afghans can find a political dispensation which can ensure durable peace inside Afghanistan. * When asked to comment on the statement of the Head of the UNMOGIP in India and Pakistan regarding mounting tension on the LOC and his proposal to seek United States intervention for the resolution of Kashmir issue, the Spokesman responded: Well, you know Pakistan’s position in this regard. We would like to resolve all issues with India, particularly the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir through negotiations in the light of UN resolutions, keeping in mind the wishes of the Kashmiri people through bilateral talks or through intermediation of a third country or an organization. We think it is important to resolve this issue at an early date so that the tension the region is faced with all the time can be resolved.
Source: www.forisb.org/FOS01-54.htm Transcript of the Press Conference Addressed by the Foreign Office Spokesman 29 October 2001 Opening Comments I have two pieces of information to share with you. First the Foreign Minister of France Mr. Herbert Vedrine will be visiting Islamabad on 1-2 November and also during the same dates Greek Foreign Minister Mr.George Papandreou would also be visiting Islamabad. So this is the information I have to convey to you. QUESTION - ANSWER SESSION: The following issues were discussed during the question-answer session: * When his comments were sought on the Bahawalpur incident where Christians were murdered by some terrorist, the Spokesman said: You must have heard the comments of the President on this terrible act of terrorism targeting a minority and targeting their place of worship. Also you must have heard the statements of a large number of religious and political leaders condemning this terrible act of terrorism. Certainly, this is something which is intolerable and as already been stated, we do not rule out possibility of foreign hand in this incident but obviously whoever are responsible for this criminal act their objective was to create instability and unrest in Pakistan. * When asked to comment on the bilateral talks between Mr. Lakhder Brahimi and our Foreign Minister, the Spokesman said: Mr.Lakhder Brahimi came yesterday and today he had first set of discussions with our Foreign Minister and will be meeting the President tomorrow. He would be in Islamabad for a few days. These talks naturally related to the situation in Afghanistan and also the initiative by the UN Secretary General and UN itself for promoting the process which will lead hopefully to a broad-based government and national reconciliation in Afghanistan. We exchanged views regarding our assessment and his own ideas relating to this process. There is a complete agreement that all the Afghans and all neighbours of Afghanistan and the international community and the UN itself affirm the territorial integrity of Afghanistan. The territorial integrity of Afghanistan has to be preserved and protected. Secondly, that any process which leads to national reconciliation will have to involve all the Afghans and it will have to be home-grown, it will have to be developed by the Afghans themselves, the outsiders can help the process but they will not be participants in the process. They also took note of the various processes going on, including the meetings which took place in Rome, the meeting in Peshawar and meeting also taking place in Cyprus. Basically, this was a preliminary meeting where there were discussions relating to various aspects of these initiatives and how to proceed. * When his attention was drawn to the envisaged broad-based government and the related reports that the United States and some European countries were reluctant to include the Taleban in such a future plan, the Spokesman commented: When we say that the process has to be developed by the Afghans themselves then it will have to include all the Afghans who are outside and more importantly, I should say all the Afghans who are inside Afghanistan. There may be 25 to 30% who are outside Afghanistan, but there may be 70-75% Afghans who are inside Afghanistan, they will have to be inducted in this process. Of course, this is the challenge for the United Nations how to bring about national reconciliation. * When asked to give his views on the specifics of the proposed Council of 12 Ministers encompassing various ethnic groups, being purported by Lakhdar Brahimi and the propose visit to Pakistan by former King Zahir Shah, the Spokesman stated: We have no information about the former King Zahir Shah’s interest in coming to Islamabad or Peshawar. Now coming to your question, first of all the meeting which has taken place was a working lunch and a preliminary meeting. There were no specific ideas which were discussed at this particular meeting and basically the ideas were in the nature of our discussion with other neighbours like Iran and also the broad parameters of this process such as I have already indicated that the territorial integrity of Afghanistan has to be respected. Also, there is an international consensus on that all Afghans be brought into this process and they have to be encouraged and this process will have to be carried forward and developed by the Afghans themselves. There were no specific ideas which were discussed. Surely, when we talk about all Afghans it has to include all Afghans outside as well as inside Afghanistan and that certainly was emphasized. * When his views were sought on the news item pertaining to the possibility of US forces using small nuclear bombs in Afghanistan and also CENTCOM’s Chief, General Tony Frank’s visit to Islamabad, the Spokesman said: We firmly reject even the thought of using nuclear weapons, tactical or otherwise, and if I am not mistaken this question earlier was put to Secretary of State and his response to the questionnaire was ‘where did you get these ideas from’. We firmly and categorically reject any thought of using nuclear weapons, tactical or otherwise, in Afghanistan. I can confirm that General Tony Frank, Commander-in-Chief of CENTCOM, came to Islamabad on a brief visit and met the President accompanied by the US Ambassador in Islamabad. They, of course, discussed the situation relating to Afghanistan. Others present included General Aziz Khan, Chairman CJSC, the Air Chief, the Naval Chief and Vice Chief of Army Staff General Muhammad Yousaf along with other senior army officials when General Tony Frank met the President. * Asked if the CENTCOM Chief has taken Pakistan into confidence about the US military plans in Afghanistan, the Spokesman stated: I do not have the specifics of the meeting. * When asked to give his views on the commonality of perception between Pakistan and the visiting German Chancellor vis-à-vis a short operation in Afghanistan and his comments in India regarding the resumption of bilateral talks between India and Pakistan, the Spokesman stated: Yes, about the resumption of dialogue with India, Pakistan has absolutely no hesitation in that. Pakistan agrees that there should be resumption of dialogue with India because only through dialogue we can address meaningfully the question of Kashmir which is at the heart of tension between the two countries for more than half a century. The international community also desires that there should be resumption and solution of this longstanding dispute between the two countries. I hope you were present at the joint press briefing addressed by the two Presidents and at that time also there was affirmation of the hope by the German Chancellor that there will be resumption of dialogue between the two countries. Germany, certainly Pakistan and many other countries have emphasized that military operation should be as short as possible that care should be taken that no civilian lives are lost and the operation should be focused in its targets. That is something which has been stated by many leaders of the world. This remains also Pakistan’s position. * When he was asked to spell out Pakistan’s policy regarding its arms tribesmen’s determination to enter Afghanistan and help the Taleban, the Spokesman stated: Pakistan’s position is very clear on this. We would not want any Pakistani to be going inside Afghanistan. We have also asked the Afghan government, the Taleban leadership that they should not have any Pakistani as part of their military efforts or part of their forces and they should not have them in their training bases etc. this is not the position we have taken now, this is a position that we had taken quite some time ago and we have been emphasizing this position after the adoption of resolution 1267 which is almost one and half year old now. So that position continues to remain the same and we maintain it. * When he was asked to give his views about the possibility of a suspension of military operation in Afghanistan during the month of Ramadan, the Spokesman stated: The US is keeping all its options open. But we have made our position very clear and we have said that the sanctity of the Holy month of Ramadan should be maintained and that continuation of military operation during the month of Ramadan would aggravate the sentiments of the Muslims around the world. * Asked to comment about the proposed visit of the President to New York, the Spokesman replied: Yes, the decision has been taken in principle and it is being given a definitive shape and in all possibility, the visit will take place but the details of the visit are still being worked out. * When asked to give his views on the large scale unrest in the Northern Areas and their possible ramification for Pakistan’s Afghan policy, the Spokesman observed: You are right. There have been some unrest in the Khohistan area. Today some discussions with the Chief of the Tehrik-e-Nafaz-e-Sharia Muhammadi has taken place and he has already issued a call that this kind of road blocking is not correct. Those people who may be involved in this activity should not do so. By blocking roads etc. by creating unrest in the country they are helping nobody’s cause, it is only damaging Pakistan and I don’t think that any Pakistani in his right mind, while having all right to protest peacefully and to make his point of view known, would want to damage property or create unrest. But it is not making any material difference. There is no tourism these days to the Northern Areas, no trade at present through this border with China, so that is the situation. Food situation in northern areas has not been affected by this temporary closure. * When his comments were sought on the possibility of a bilateral meeting between Prime Minister Vajpayee and our President in New York, the Spokesman stated: It depends on how the programme is worked out. First of all it will depend on whether such a meeting can be arranged. At present it is not on the cards. The programme has not yet been finalized, therefore, I cannot say anything definitely at present. * When asked to give his observation about the statement attributed to the Chief UNHCR urging Pakistan to open its borders to Afghan refugees, the Spokesman said: What we have agreed and this what we have been doing earlier that we permit vulnerable and sick, old, women and children to come to Pakistan. We cannot completely open our border because according to the UN itself there are anywhere between one to one and a half million people who are displaced and who may be wanting to come to Pakistan. Secondly, there are anywhere between five to seven million Afghans who are vulnerable and they may be potential refugees. And if we open our borders then we would be having a mass of humanity coming into Pakistan and there is no way Pakistan can take care of these people in addition to the three million Afghan refugees who are already in Pakistan. It would be simply impossible and our policy remains and we are persuading and emphasizing with the UN agencies that as much as possible assistance should be sent inside Afghanistan so that these people do not cross the border. * When asked to comment on the justification for a broad-based government in Afghanistan, the Spokesman stated: I would like to draw you attention to the numerous resolutions adopted by the OIC and the UN which stipulate to put an end to the long and fratricidal conflict and the establishment of a broad-based government which can bring peace and stability in Afghanistan. Pakistan has always endorsed these resolutions and we still maintain such a stance. Source: www.forisb.org/FOS01-53.htm Speech by the Foreign Minister on the 56th anniversary of the United Nations, 24 October 2001 All of us, friends and admirers of the United Nations, assemble here this morning to celebrate the 56th anniversary of the Organization. Conceived in the midst of history’s most destructive war, the United Nations is the repository of humanity’s deepest hopes for the preservation of international peace and security. The people of the world also look up to the United Nations for fulfillment of the Charter pledge "to promote social progress and better standard of life in larger freedom." There could be no greater tribute to the United Nations than the reaffirmation of faith in the Organization and its Charter by the Heads of State and Government gathered at the Millennium Summit of the General Assembly last year. The selection of Secretary General Kofi Annan and the United Nations for conferment of the Nobel Prize for Peace this year is another testimony to the valuable services rendered by the Organization to the cause of peace. The United Nations and its agencies make a seminal contribution to economic development and poverty alleviation, improvement of health, promotion of literacy, protection of children, and provision of relief for refugees, food for the hungry, and multiple services to distressed humanity.
A grateful recipient of UN cooperation and assistance, Pakistan is also proud of the contribution we have made to UN causes. We have been a constant supporter of UN peace-keeping operations. Our soldiers have served in distant countries of three continents and given sacrifice of life for sake of peace. Within the limits of our resources, we have contributed materially to the UN Development Programme. We have extended full cooperation to the UN Military Observers Group in India and Pakistan. Regrettably, their work has been obstructed and the resolutions of the Security Council pledging self-determination to the people of Jammu and Kashmir remain unimplemented. As a result, the travail of the people of the State continues. According to the All Parties Hurriyet Conference, more than 75,000 Kashmiris have been killed by occupation forces over the last 12 years. Although our capacity is limited and stamina strained, we are trying our best to lend services in kind for the temporary care of displaced persons from Afghanistan. We hope that the UN will be able to mobilize adequate funds for the maintenance of these unfortunate persons for the duration of their stay and then ensure their return to their own country. All Members of the United Nations and the Organization of the Islamic Conference have unanimously condemned the terrorist outrage of 11 September 2001, extended condolences to the United States and voted for cooperation to bring perpetrators, organizers and sponsors of the terrorist attacks to justice. Terrorism in all forms is a scourge the world community has to eradicate. Pakistan is implementing its obligations under the Security Council resolution of 12 September 2001. We hope the Security Council will ensure implementation of its own resolutions on other issues. The world community needs to analyze what leads human beings to desperation, fury and irrationality. One of the causes surely is festering injustices. The strategy for precluding calamitous consequences is implicit in the Charter. The United Nations has the mandate to promote peaceful settlement of disputes in conformity with the principles of justice and international law. All of us must hope that the community of States will enable the United Nations to discharge its duty effectively. On this day "we the people" once again reaffirm our pledge to work for a future better than the past.
Thank you. Source: http://www.forisb.org/FM01-12.html ."We haven't set any limits. We are part of the coalition ... but my assessment is that we go on until the objectives are achieved… the operation must be as short as possible… Any dispensation, any arrangement must be homegrown ... In present circumstances I really don't see how moderate Taliban could be totally removed from the scene… I have never been scared and I have never been concerned about my personal security. God is great and if I have to do something for this country I will do it."
-- President Pervez Musharraf, Quoted in Daily Telegraph, London, October 27 "The US objective of waging a war on Afghanistan does not seem to have been achieved. Now the world, including Pakistan, has started thinking that whatever currently is happening in Afghanistan is not good. The Muslims are upset over a large number of civilian causalities…Neither we nor many Afghans know the whereabouts of Osma bin Laden. The situation would not have been the same after three weeks of heavy bombardment on Afghanistan had we given the secret information to the US…The US is using occasionally the air bases of Pasni, Baddin and Jaccobbabad for only rescue and search operations…Like other Muslims of the world, our hearts are throbbing over civilian causalities and difficulties being faced by Afghanistan as a result of war. The Afghans have survived despite the US heavy air strikes because their determination is strong…In their speeches at protest meetings, the religious leaders are talking against the rulers, urging people to topple the government but we are tolerating them…Their attitude is not in the interest of the nation. They involved refugees in protests and we have videos of all protests. The press is completely independent in its working despite the time is very crucial for the country."
-- Moinuddin Haider, Federal Interior Minister, Lahore, October 27 Transcript of the Press Conference Address by the Foreign Office Spokesman 24, October 2001 Opening Comments The Dutch Prime Minister will be visiting Pakistan on 27 October 2001. QUESTION - ANSWER SESSION: The following issues were discussed during the question-answer session: * When his comments were sought on a statement of the Indian Prime Minister that Pakistan should decide once for all whether it was for peace or for war with India, the Spokesman stated: Pakistan is for peace. Pakistan is certainly opposed to war. Pakistan is in favour of resumption of dialogue with India. But you must have also witnessed that we have been hearing hostile and threatening noises from the Indian side. Some important Indian personalities have been talking of specific actions and proactive moves. Even there were some suggestions for hot pursuits. Naturally, such hostile noises require a robust response to reassure our own people and the President has done that. The President has also reaffirmed Pakistan’s desire for resumption of dialogue with India. He has stated that one cannot clap with one hand and, therefore, for resumption of a meaningful dialogue it requires also a political determination on the part of India. * When his attention was drawn to reports appearing in a section of the press that few Pakistanis died in action in Afghanistan and their dead bodies were being brought back to Pakistan, the Spokesman stated: For quite some time, the Pakistan Government has impressed upon the Afghan government that they should not allow any Pakistanis to be part of any of their forces and they should not be allowed to go inside Afghanistan for any so-called training purposes, and we have been very firm on this matter. We also try to interdict any people crossing into Afghanistan. We have also been requesting the Afghan government to try to apprehend and hand over a large number of Pakistanis, who are absconders, who are wanted by our courts and who according to our information have slipped into Afghanistan. Now, if there are any Pakistanis who may have gone into Afghanistan, we are not aware of their number and also we are not in a position to confirm or deny the report of casualties inside Afghanistan including some Pakistanis. * When his comments were sought on reported firing at a US helicopter inside Pakistani territory, the Spokesman said: I am aware of an incident relating to a disabled US helicopter which was being taken to aircraft carrier in the Indian Ocean. Because of late evening it could not be taken to its destination and had to stay overnight in Pakistan. There was one single or a couple of shots which reportedly were fired. This was a minor incident, nothing serious. The disabled helicopter and the one which was carrying it stayed overnight and left for the aircraft carrier in the early hours next day. * Asked with over 3 million Afghan refugees already on our soil, why Pakistan was not asking other governments to share the burden, the Spokesman said: Pakistan would welcome any country taking off some of our burden relating to Afghan refugees. But we are realist. Our appeals are not going to make much of a difference. You have seen those unfortunate Afghan refugees who tried to seek asylum elsewhere and what happened to them. I may also share this information with you that there are a number of countries who basically want to push the so-called illegal Afghans resident in those countries onto Pakistan. They say Pakistan is the first country of asylum for these refugees, therefore, Pakistan should take these people. We have taken the stand that we already have enough Afghan refugees and as such not in a position to take any more. In these circumstances any kind of appeals would be simply unrealistic. * To a related question that why Pakistan was not impressing upon the UNHCR to ask other neighbours of Afghanistan to open their borders for Afghan refugees, as Pakistan was already hosting more than three million Afghans and was not in a position to entertain more, the Spokesman stated: All the neighbours of Afghanistan have closed their borders and that is also the policy of Pakistan. But the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is quite peculiar and unique. There are scores, if not hundreds, of mountain trails which cannot be completely sealed. Therefore, about fifty to sixty thousand refugees have already entered Pakistan since 11 September. There is no way to check and seal each and every mountain trail along 2,500 kilometers long border. As regards your suggestion that we should ask the UNHCR, this is something that we have always been saying that Pakistan is burdened, and if any one else can share this burden we would be happy. We are not suggesting this only to UNHCR, we are suggesting it openly to anybody who wishes to take up this burden. We would welcome any such offer. * When his comments were sought on some sort of criticism appearing in a section of the media that Pakistan was not sincere to the idea of a broad-based government in Afghanistan, and was causing a slowdown in the process, the Spokesman observed: I don’t know where you have seen this criticism. If it has appeared in some newspaper articles probably the authors, if I may dare say so, has very little idea of Afghan history, the country and what is happening there at present. This is an effort which is being made for last fifteen years and anybody, who has the slightest knowledge of the various ethnic groups, the divisions and problems, which have been accentuated by years and years of conflicts inside Afghanistan, would know how difficult and how monumental is this task of promoting a consensus and a broad-based government, representative of all segments of the Afghan population, which can bring peace in that country. This is not a new effort. Effort has been going on. I think those who are trying to suggest that we are ones who are causing some kind of a slow-down in this process, should ask the Afghans themselves what kind of ideas they have for promoting this process, and that would give the idea of the difficulties. * When asked about the purpose of the upcoming visit of the German Chancellor and Pakistan’s expectations from the visit, the Spokesman said: We greatly appreciate this gesture by German Chancellor to stop-over in Pakistan. He had a scheduled visit to China and India. As a special gesture he has decided to stay in Pakistan to hold discussions with our President. This is a show of solidarity with Pakistan in this difficult time, and an expression of appreciation for the position that Pakistan has taken. As regards what Pakistan is expecting from this visit, we do not have any specific expectations. Already the Foreign Minister of Germany has visited Pakistan and the relationship between the two countries has been fully normalized. There are assurances that bilateral economic cooperation and trade cooperation between the two countries will be enhanced and further developed. Also there are assurances that Germany will work within the framework of the European Union to help Pakistan’s economic interests, particularly trade interests. In that context you might have already noted that the European Union has given access to a number of our products without tariff. It is a very positive gesture and would help our trade. We hope that this kind of cooperation between our two countries and our cooperation with the European Union would continue in future.
Source: http://www.forisb.org/FOS01-51.htm "Our declared position is that the military action should be as short as possible in the context of its objectives of the Security Council resolutions.î Sattar said: "We are Afghanistan's neighbour, friends and brother. We have strong bonds of history and culture and ethnicity with the people of Afghanistan." -- Abdul Sattar, Foreign Minister, Islamabad, October 24 Live Interview of Pakistan General Pervez Musharraf to Larry King of CNN on 23 October 2001, Islamabad Larry King: Mr. President, the other day the Security Chief of the Taliban said Musharraf is our enemy and the next target in due time. Does this give you any cause for concern? Pervez Musharraf: Well, it does cause concern, but not much. We have joined the coalition as a matter of principle and we will stick to our decision. Larry King: So nothing that they say will affect you or be fearful for your family? Pervez Musharraf: No, I do not think so. As I said it is a cause of some concern, but it is not such that one should over worry about it. Larry King: Was it a difficult decision for you, Mr. President to support the international anti terror campaign? Pervez Musharraf: Yes, it was. I will have to admit it because of the domestic sentiments as opposed to the requirements of action in Afghanistan against the terrorists. But we took a very considered opinion and I know that a vast majority of the country is supporting whatever decision I have taken. Although, it was a difficult decision, but we took the right decision. Larry King: You had previously supported the Taliban, Mr. President. What prompted you to change that policy? Pervez Musharraf: Well, the environment changed. As I have always been saying policies are made in accordance with the environment that is prevailing. Before the 11th of September, the environment was totally different. After the 11th of September, however, the environment changed drastically. Therefore, the requirement was for adjusting the policies in accordance with the ground realities. Larry King: What Mr. President, is the extent of your country's support to the United States effort. Will it be limited to providing air bases, airspace and intelligence support. Are the United States troops welcome in Pakistan? Pervez Musharraf: As I have enunciated a number of times, we have assured our participation in the coalition as far as the exchange of intelligence information, use of airspace and provision of logistic support is concerned. Now we are operating within these parameters and giving the support as promised. Larry King: Would the Pakistani troops, do you think, be involved? Pervez Musharraf: No, I would not like the Pakistani troops to get involved across the border in Afghanistan. And they are not involved at all.
Larry King: And the meeting with the Secretary of State Collin Powell last week. Would you call that meeting successful? Pervez Musharraf: I will call it very successful. Larry King: Would you agree to a new broad based government in Afghanistan. And would you tell us how you view that government? Pervez Musharraf: I have been laying down four parameters for such a government. Firstly, we must ensure the unity and stability of Afghanistan and then bring peace into Afghanistan. Secondly, to have a broad based multi-ethnic government, representative of all the ethnic groups, taking into account the ethnic composition of Afghanistan. Thirdly, we must not ever be seen to be imposing a political solution on the Afghans. We should be seen facilitating a solution. Therefore, the solution needs to be in accordance with the wishes of the people of Afghanistan. Lastly, being a Pakistani, I would certainly like to have a friendly Afghanistan on our Western border. So within these four parameters, one needs to crystallize the political dispensation that one would like to have in Afghanistan. Larry King: What role do you see for the northern Alliance? Pervez Musharraf: Well, they are a part of Afghanistan. They are Pushdowns. They are very much a part of Afghanistan and they have a role to playas far as their ethnic composition is concerned. As I have already said, we are for a broad based government and a multi-ethnic government in accordance with the ethnic composition of Afghanistan. So certainly every Afghan has a role to play in a future government in Afghanistan. Larry King: What has the United States, Mr. President, promised you in return? They have lifted sanctions and they are helping you to pay down some debts and some other matters? Pervez Musharraf: First of all, let me say that we did not get involved in a deal, initially, when we decided to be a part of the coalition. There was no such deal that was agreed upon. However, being our coalition partner, they do understand the problems and the difficulties besetting us. So the sanctions have already been lifted and we are grateful for that. We are also in the process of negotiating the economic assistance that Pakistan can get, not only from the United States, but also from the European Union and the other countries who have been assisting us in the past. We are negotiating for an economic package to assist Pakistan out of its problems. Larry King: How could you describe, Mr. President, your relationship right now between your country and the Taliban Government. You have diplomatic relations. How would you describe this balance? Pervez Musharraf: Well, we do have diplomatic relations with Afghanistan. The Afghan Embassy is here, representative of the Taliban. So to that extent, we have diplomatic relations and contact with them. However, I would like to say that under present circumstances, physical contact is not there at all. So our relations are totally in cold storage. Larry King: In the press conference with the Secretary of State Colin Powell you said you hoped that the operation in Afghanistan will be short, it will not last a long time. Do you think that it will really be short? Pervez Musharraf: Well, the duration of the operation is dependent on the achievement of certain objectives. Any military operation has to clearly identify what exactly are the military objectives. One is supposed to achieve those objectives before bringing the operation to an end. But one does sincerely hope that the objectives are achieved and the military operation is short. That is what one would like to hope. And I would again like to say that we really hope and one should attempt at achieving the military objectives as fast as possible so that the military operation comes to an end soon. Larry King: Are those objectives clear to you? Pervez Musharraf: Well, to my military mind, although, I have not really discussed it in such detail, yes, these objectives are really clear to me. Larry King: You have said the United States should first take out the Taliban Leader Mullah Umar. By first do you mean that it should be before Osama bin Laden? Pervez Musharraf: Well, this is attributed to me in one interview, a supposed interview that I gave. This was not an interview at all. This was an informal discussion where I did discuss the military aspects just informally and let me reiterate, any military operation has to identify the center of gravity first, and then set military objectives to achieve that particular center of gravity. So, to that extent, one would not really like to discuss whether Osama bin Laden happens to be the center of gravity of the operation in Afghanistan or not. To that extent, I did informally voice my views and I do stick to those views. Larry King: General, have you ever met Osama bin Laden? Pervez Musharraf: Never. I have never met him. I would like to say .here that this campaign may have some affects in the Muslim world. One would hope and wish that this campaign comes to an end before the Holy month of Ramadan and one would hope for restraint during the month of Ramadan because this would certainly have some negative effects in the Muslim world. Larry King: In all of the Muslim World, the Muslims would have tough time during this holiest part of the year? Pervez Musharraf: I think so, it will certainly have some negative affects. Larry King: Have you received any assurances that there would not be any action during Ramadan? Pervez Musharraf: Well, I have not got any such assurance. But, as I have said, the month of Ramadan is about a month away, perhaps less than a month, I would say. One hopes that the military objectives, as I have said, do get achieved within this duration so that the operation comes ! to an end. Larry King: What is the feeling, Mr. President, in your country about the United States. I know there have been some sides that have lodged protests. We have seen them and there have been some militant groups that are opposed to the United States. What are the general feelings in Pakistan about America? Pervez Musharraf: Well, if you want a very frank answer, the feelings were good before, I would say when we were together, fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. But after the Soviets were defeated in Afghanistan, Pakistan was left in the lurch. Everyone left us alone. There was a sense of betrayal or a sense of abandonment which was being felt by every Pakistani. It will take sometime to overcome this feeling that exists in Pakistan, commonly. Larry King: Therefore, it will cause you problems politically suppolrting the United States since there is that feeling of betrayal? Pervez Musharraf: Yes, that is the cause of the problem. I know that the vast majority has support for me. But my problem arises when the same fraternal feelings do not exist with the United States as they existed in 1980s when we were fighting a war in Afghanistan, together. That feeling is not there which is causing a bit of confusion in the minds of the Pakistanis. On the one side they are with me and with my government, on the other side, this support to the American action in Afghanistan which is expected from the Pakistanis has confused them. They are not sure how to reconcile with these two acts. Larry King: Have you discussed any of this with President Bush and by the way, do you speak to President Bush on a regular basis? Pervez Musharraf: Well, I have spoken to him twice. I don't speak to him on a regular basis. I have told him of the reality on ground here in Pakistan, but not in such a great detail. But I did give it in a great detail to the Secretary of State, Colin Powell. Larry King: Therefore, you do have fears that having been abandoned once in the past, this may happen again when the operation ends in Afghanistan and they go to some other place? Pervez Musharraf: Yes, indeed. That is one of the prime topics that is being discussed all over Pakistan. There is a feeling that we may be abandoned again after our support to the United States and their coalition. Well, I feel and I really very sincerely hope that this does not recur and the promise that we have got from the United States materializes. It appears that they have realized the follies of the past and I am very hopeful that it will not recur. It will not be in Pakistan's interest and the larger interest of the United States, specially, in relation to the geo-strategic importance of this region. Larry King: What would you think if America took the attack further and went into Iraq? Pervez Musharraf: Well, frankly at this moment, with the kind of sentiments that prevail in the Muslim world, I don't think it will be very productive. It will certainly increase the opposition towards the United States. Larry King: How are you handling the refugees problem. How many are coming from across the border? Pervez Musharraf: This is causing a great concern to us. Hundreds of thousands of refugees want to cross over into Pakistan. And our ,Ulema is that we already have about 2.5 million refugees here in Pakistan. And you can compare this when you think of a country like Australia not prepared to accept even 200 refugees. So an economically weak country like Pakistan cannot really accept refugees over this great figure of 2.5 million. Now the problem that arises is how to accommodate more and in this regard we have been dealing with the UNHCR and our point of view has always been that we must establish camps across the border in Afghanistan and all assistance to the refugees must be given over there so that the people go back to Afghanistan instead of settling them over here. Our country already comprises of 140 million people. We only hope that with joint efforts with the UNHCR, we can resolve this problem. Pakistan is prepared to accept the aged, the children, the women and the injured. But we cannot open the flood gates for all the refugees. Larry King: Pakistan and India both have nuclear weapons, we all know that. Do you fear if fundamentalists took control in your area of the world, they would have use of those bombs. How well are they protected? Pervez Musharraf: These thoughts are around the world, specially, in the West. Let me tell you these thoughts are with those who do not really understand the reality of Pakistan, internally. First of all, let me say that all our nuclear assets and the strategic assets are in very safe hands. We have evolved an excellent command and control system. There is no question of their falling into the hands of any fundamentalists. Let me also tell you that Pakistan is a moderate Islamic country and I mean every word of it. No religious extremist party has even won any size able number of seats in any elections in Pakistan. Even now, when we had these local elections, let me tell you that the candidates who had support from the religious parties, not numbered even two per cent of the total who were elected. Pakistan is a moderate Islamic country and there is no question of any fundamentalists getting hold of our strategic assets. Larry King: Do you expect to resolve the dispute between Pakistan and India over Kashmir? Pervez Musharraf: You cannot clap with one hand. I am trying my best. You need to ask this question across the border from Prime Minister Vajpayee. Larry King: And what could you tell us about the helicopter crash in Pakistan in which two U.S soldiers were killed and three others injured? Pervez Musharraf: Well, this happened at one of the bases which we have provided to the United States for the logistic support. This was a routine accident. It had nothing to do with reaction from any side. Larry King: Mr. President, finally, are you optimistic or pessimistic about this whole terrorist situation. Do you think the coalition can succeed or do you have genuine worries? Pervez Musharraf: Well, action against terrorism does not start and end in Afghanistan. I would agree with President Bush when he said that operation will be long. I presume he is talking of the operations and the campaign against terrorism in its entire complexity. That will not end with the termination of operation in Afghanistan. One has to persist to eliminate terrorism from around the world. Larry King: Thank you so much, Mr. President: Thank you for the time. We appreciate it a great deal. Pervez Musharraf: Thank you very much, Larry. It was a pleasure,
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